Strife Banner -
I was commissioned by Strife to create a new banner for his youtube. Being a fan of the TF2 art direction made made this piece a blast to work on. If you’d like to learn more about Strife or see the banner implemented his channel will be linked below.
Strife’s Youtube Channel-
Stay away from Fiverr. Promoting this sort of thing is NOT okay.
It’s ruining an industry.
What bullshit. Yeah, don’t worry people, you’re getting so ripped off, paying an already moderate amount for something your company is young to use and advertise either every minute of everyday for the rest of it’s existence.
Jog like artists need to eat, or pay bills, or have a roof over their heads or anything. Not like they’re PEOPLE trying to make an honest living or anything.
Every time I see that picture on my dash I expect it to be a prank and that I’m going to scroll down and see a bunch of examples of their $5 logos that amount to crudely drawn dicks.
Oh boy, logo mills. I just want to pull up something from The Graphic Artists Guild Handbook: Pricing and Ethical Guidelines about these kinds of companies. It’s long but I think it’s worth reading the full thing:
Graphic designers are facing similar assaults on their profession by companies that devalue professional design services by competing unfairly on price with shoddy design, sub-standard services, unfair labor practices, and with no regard to copyright. So-called “logo mills” are online operations that hire “designers” at ridiculously low rates to pump out off-the-shelf logos that are marketed to consumers at cut-rate prices. Most of these pre-made logos are simply pieced together clip art with mundane type treatment. The same logos are sold over and over again. Buyers can pay higher prices to get a “unique” logo, which means the company promises not to resell the design and the buyer simply owns the copyright as part of the package. “Customization” may consist of little more than providing the same logo in a different color scheme or with adjustments to the font.
A second type of logo mill offers “original” logos. The price of their services is based on the number of concepts, rounds of revisions, and designers working on the project (the greater the number, the higher the price), yet their prices are still below the prevailing market rates for professional design services. Their success, despite such low prices, is due to their abusive labor practices, which treat designers as just another expendable commodity instead of highly-trained professionals. Logo mills are the digital sweatshops of the design world. In one such company, designers work on per project basis (earning $25-40 per project) in extremely competitive conditions with no assurance of continued work and no copyright fees. Designers sign up for a project on a first-come, first-served basis. Since multiple designers work on a project, they “compete” to have their design accepted by the client. Successful designers are awarded points as well as a monetary bonus. Designers are required to critique each other’s work with points being deducted from those whose work is panned. A loss of points mean that the designer’s fee will be lowered on future projects.
Logo mills have an insidious impact on the perception among business owners regarding copyrights. By simply ignoring the existence of copyrights in the pricing structure, logo mills are completely devaluing copyrights. The result is a business community that increasingly is unaware of the existence or value of copyright and unwilling to pay what to them seems to be an unfair or unnecessary fee tacked on a job.
Also, even $100 for a logo (does that even include copyrights or…?) is incredible low. If you’re curious how much a logo should go for:
- Very small businesses (ie law firms, retail, etc.): $1,200-3,000 for a simple logo with all rights included
- Minor corporation: $1,200-12,000
- Major corporation: $4,000-25,000+
Obviously the price will also depend on the designer’s experience, copyright transfer, how fast the client needs the logo, revisions, tech specs for the logo, etc etc but you get the idea.
If you’re an artist or designer, don’t go anywhere near companies that will treat you as a commodity. And if you’re a client, do some research on how much these types of things actually cost and what is involved in the cost. If you go to one of these companies for design services, you helping perpetuate these gross practices and further undervaluing art/design and copyright. It’s why the Graphic Artists Guild and their handbook exists, as a resource for both artists and clients.
I would like to input that big big big companies are even willing to spend millions on a logo.
BECAUSE LOGOS ARE YOUR CORPORATE IDENTITY. YOUR COMPANY’S IDENTITY. it’s like giving a face to your baby.
I usually don’t reblog, but this is important. You thought Deviantart point commissions were a bad joke, this is a whole new level of wtf.
The reason people say ‘You can’t live off art’ is because of people who think this is okay.
I’ve been waiting to show this piece for some time now. Its part of a new book coming out called Everyday is Play by Game Paused ( Link below). The subject was very simple create something that expresses your love for video games. So I decided to create a SNES All Star mash up with my favorite characters representing my favorite games on the system. Despite having worked on this a few months ago I still really like how it turned out I hope the rest of you enjoy it as well.
I cannot think of today without remembering two people. Though I never would have guessed it, and I’m not sure they ever actually met, I’ll always think of Ryan Davis and my father in the same breath.
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Like many of the GB community losing Ryan hit us hard maybe even more so for fans like me. I lost my Grandmother only one day after my birthday and a two short weeks later Ryan was gone. In times of unemployment and self doubt Ryan and GB always gave me a laugh and reminded me to look on the up and up. It’s maybe a bit odd to be so choked up about someone I never met in person or even had a conversation with but I know the true GB community would stand by this statement “Love Ryan Davis.”
I can relate directly to what Patrick is saying all of us who have lost someone understand this all to well. They slowly start to fade and its heart breaking but they wouldn’t want us to wallow in grief. Instead they’d tell us to keep pushing the envelope going further and reaching for the goals that seem impossible.
It may seem like at times were forgetting them or even that the burden is lightening. While it seems that way I don’t think its that simple I think they’ve just become more of who we are now then ever before. Ryan taught me a very valuable lesson which is to embrace what you love and never be ashamed of it. Ryan loved the dumbest stuff and was extremely passionate about whatever it was. Something as simple as embracing who you are is something I’ve tried to live by ever since.
I’m no poet or journalist my writing is juvenile at best but maybe my incoherent mess of words will reach someone and pass along this lesson. That life is a jumbled mess but one of the best things you can do is embrace who you are and to let others do the same. Continuing to live better for the loved ones who are gone and doing our best to honor them no matter where we go in life.